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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your first question - it sounds to me that you are attacking the strings perpendicularly, by that I mean by the flat of your nail. If that is true perhaps you might consider using more the side of your nail and pushing the string off as if the nail was a ramp. This might resolve some of the issues you are having with the angle of your wrist. 45 degrees does sound like there is some serious twisting going on... When you are playing picado on the bass strings try to move your whole arm, as a unit, higher up towards your face so that you are not really change your nail string attack angle.

Regarding the second paragraph... I have no idea what the implications are as I have never played in the classical position. But I have used the traditional flamenco position, the Paco position, the Oscar Herrero position (with a foot stool), played lying down on my bed, on the sofa and so on... Principally I change these playing positions so alleviate muscle strain in long practice sessions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your first question &#8211; it sounds to me that you are attacking the strings perpendicularly, by that I mean by the flat of your nail. If that is true perhaps you might consider using more the side of your nail and pushing the string off as if the nail was a ramp. This might resolve some of the issues you are having with the angle of your wrist. 45 degrees does sound like there is some serious twisting going on&#8230; When you are playing picado on the bass strings try to move your whole arm, as a unit, higher up towards your face so that you are not really change your nail string attack angle.</p>
<p>Regarding the second paragraph&#8230; I have no idea what the implications are as I have never played in the classical position. But I have used the traditional flamenco position, the Paco position, the Oscar Herrero position (with a foot stool), played lying down on my bed, on the sofa and so on&#8230; Principally I change these playing positions so alleviate muscle strain in long practice sessions.</p>
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		<title>By: Klemen</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Klemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have a question regarding my wrist/hand position for the basic picado / string walking. When doing for example a-m at the bass string, what happens to the angle of my hand? Is my wrist always straight? If that&#039;s the case and if I create a perfect placement (thumb resting on 6th string, the other three resting on the treble strings) and I move my arm up to reach the bass string with a-i, the ami fingers are now under an angle (45o) and I can&#039;t really pick this way. So what do I do, drop in the wrist towards the ground or pull it out - forward/away from me?

Also... I&#039;ve played classical on my own for a few years now, started doing the string walking and I noticed it totally screwed my picking precision in e.g Asturias that I was beginning to do quite well in when I went back to my classical posture (guitar between my legs). Does that mean I&#039;d have to choose one or the other posture from now on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have a question regarding my wrist/hand position for the basic picado / string walking. When doing for example a-m at the bass string, what happens to the angle of my hand? Is my wrist always straight? If that&#8217;s the case and if I create a perfect placement (thumb resting on 6th string, the other three resting on the treble strings) and I move my arm up to reach the bass string with a-i, the ami fingers are now under an angle (45o) and I can&#8217;t really pick this way. So what do I do, drop in the wrist towards the ground or pull it out &#8211; forward/away from me?</p>
<p>Also&#8230; I&#8217;ve played classical on my own for a few years now, started doing the string walking and I noticed it totally screwed my picking precision in e.g Asturias that I was beginning to do quite well in when I went back to my classical posture (guitar between my legs). Does that mean I&#8217;d have to choose one or the other posture from now on?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi miguel

I really admire your website about teaching flamenco, to be honest I envy flamenco guitarists who use i-m finger while playing scales in a relaxed manner.  I do have a question, what do you mean by pushing the string down??? I play scales using i-m but i pluck it or strike it upward and I find it difficult to control while planting. Any help will do, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi miguel</p>
<p>I really admire your website about teaching flamenco, to be honest I envy flamenco guitarists who use i-m finger while playing scales in a relaxed manner.  I do have a question, what do you mean by pushing the string down??? I play scales using i-m but i pluck it or strike it upward and I find it difficult to control while planting. Any help will do, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo Ascani</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo Ascani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 09:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that if i and m are too much curved you will never play fast picado. Is very  important to push down the string and to move the knukles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if i and m are too much curved you will never play fast picado. Is very  important to push down the string and to move the knukles.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarcChrys</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcChrys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said! On some flamenco forums I&#039;ve perused I sometimes get the impression that many flamenco aficionados see technique and speed as everything, while the actual music and quality of sound (its emotionality, melody etc) are scarcely mentioned?   BTW I wasn&#039;t trying to emulate Vicente (!), just wanted permission (!) to play as seemed natural to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said! On some flamenco forums I&#8217;ve perused I sometimes get the impression that many flamenco aficionados see technique and speed as everything, while the actual music and quality of sound (its emotionality, melody etc) are scarcely mentioned?   BTW I wasn&#8217;t trying to emulate Vicente (!), just wanted permission (!) to play as seemed natural to me.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players like Vicente that you mention are guitarists with such a technical facility usually combined with a profound understanding of flamenco and flamenco forms (both historical and geographical) that any attempt to try to emulate these people is almost certainly doomed to frustration and failure.

Arpeggios are commonly used, and the a-m-i combination, with or without the thumb is very common.

Whilst such technique is greatly admired, it is not a necessary condition for playing quality flamenco. Making the notes sound properly and giving every note it&#039;s correct value makes music sound more musical that one thousand notes badly played. In my humble opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players like Vicente that you mention are guitarists with such a technical facility usually combined with a profound understanding of flamenco and flamenco forms (both historical and geographical) that any attempt to try to emulate these people is almost certainly doomed to frustration and failure.</p>
<p>Arpeggios are commonly used, and the a-m-i combination, with or without the thumb is very common.</p>
<p>Whilst such technique is greatly admired, it is not a necessary condition for playing quality flamenco. Making the notes sound properly and giving every note it&#8217;s correct value makes music sound more musical that one thousand notes badly played. In my humble opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcChrys</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcChrys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much - that was enlightening.

One slightly related question - again from my observation as someone coming from a rock/jazz background - is &#039;what are flamenco players doing when they&#039;re just generally playing?&#039; Hmm, that&#039;s not clear at all! What I mean is when I see videos of someone like Vicente Amigo, it seems to me that (apart from when he&#039;s playing picado alzapua or rasgueado) a lot of the time he&#039;s just playing notes with the fingers (NOT thumb) of his right hand in a curled position. I&#039;m not quite able to make out whether he&#039;s using m-i or m-i-a combinations. I guess this may be some kind of thumb-less arpeggio technique? sorry if I&#039;m not clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much &#8211; that was enlightening.</p>
<p>One slightly related question &#8211; again from my observation as someone coming from a rock/jazz background &#8211; is &#8216;what are flamenco players doing when they&#8217;re just generally playing?&#8217; Hmm, that&#8217;s not clear at all! What I mean is when I see videos of someone like Vicente Amigo, it seems to me that (apart from when he&#8217;s playing picado alzapua or rasgueado) a lot of the time he&#8217;s just playing notes with the fingers (NOT thumb) of his right hand in a curled position. I&#8217;m not quite able to make out whether he&#8217;s using m-i or m-i-a combinations. I guess this may be some kind of thumb-less arpeggio technique? sorry if I&#8217;m not clear.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Marc,



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Where should my thumb be?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


If your thumb is attached to the 6th string (bordÃ³n) you will experience problems as you move up and down the strings because you hand will become progressively cramped or stretched. Nearly all guitarists advise that you move your right hand as a unit when playing picado across the strings. Allow your thumb to &quot;ride up&quot;, as you call it.

Regarding finger extension, that is,

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;relaxed and curved or stiff and straight&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

. The advice generally given is that your fingers should never be allowed to be stiff. Stiffness brings along tension, and tension is our enemy. Relaxed and curved would be my advice.

To get

&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;the distinctive picado staccato snappy sound&quot;. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Practice, practice and practice and practice consistently over a long period of time. Speed bursts are very useful to achieve this aim. Most guitarists have a natural preference of either the i finger or the m finger. Practice imimi and mimim, but play using the sequence that is strongest for you.

Your second post shows good observation and good questioning ability. Picado is not just scale runs and picado is not only play apoyando, but sometimes also tirando. If you combine (tirando) picado and arpeggios, what might have appeared to be clear differences do seem to blur...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Marc,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Where should my thumb be?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If your thumb is attached to the 6th string (bordÃ³n) you will experience problems as you move up and down the strings because you hand will become progressively cramped or stretched. Nearly all guitarists advise that you move your right hand as a unit when playing picado across the strings. Allow your thumb to &#8220;ride up&#8221;, as you call it.</p>
<p>Regarding finger extension, that is,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;relaxed and curved or stiff and straight&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>. The advice generally given is that your fingers should never be allowed to be stiff. Stiffness brings along tension, and tension is our enemy. Relaxed and curved would be my advice.</p>
<p>To get</p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;the distinctive picado staccato snappy sound&#8221;. </p></blockquote>
<p>Practice, practice and practice and practice consistently over a long period of time. Speed bursts are very useful to achieve this aim. Most guitarists have a natural preference of either the i finger or the m finger. Practice imimi and mimim, but play using the sequence that is strongest for you.</p>
<p>Your second post shows good observation and good questioning ability. Picado is not just scale runs and picado is not only play apoyando, but sometimes also tirando. If you combine (tirando) picado and arpeggios, what might have appeared to be clear differences do seem to blur&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MarcChrys</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/technique/picado/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcChrys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS From my observations there seem to be 2 main types of picado - a) those where the guitarist switches from arpeggio and does a &#039;light&#039; soft picado sequence (here it seems the hand stays pretty much in its normal position - thumb on E string) and then b) the long picado scale runs at full force (where the hand moves higher up the guitar). I&#039;m probably totally wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS From my observations there seem to be 2 main types of picado &#8211; a) those where the guitarist switches from arpeggio and does a &#8216;light&#8217; soft picado sequence (here it seems the hand stays pretty much in its normal position &#8211; thumb on E string) and then b) the long picado scale runs at full force (where the hand moves higher up the guitar). I&#8217;m probably totally wrong!</p>
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