Comments on: elementary – rhythmic structures of the main palos http://miguelbengoa.com/practice/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/ Retraining and relearning to play guitar Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:09:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: miguel http://miguelbengoa.com/practice/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-166 miguel Mon, 24 May 2010 17:12:28 +0000 http://miguelbengoa.com/wordpress/2007/12/15/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-166 I agree and I take your point. This is something that needs to be clarified and will be in the future. However, those two beats at the end of the compas are usually (at least for beginners) reserved for the final of the cierre and because of this reason I believe are best counted out of sequence. After all 10+2=12. A further point is that it is often easier to count compas in terms of pulsations rather than numbers: Dah (...) (...)Dah (...) (...)Da Dah (...) Dah (...) (...) I agree and I take your point. This is something that needs to be clarified and will be in the future. However, those two beats at the end of the compas are usually (at least for beginners) reserved for the final of the cierre and because of this reason I believe are best counted out of sequence. After all 10+2=12.
A further point is that it is often easier to count compas in terms of pulsations rather than numbers:

Dah (…) (…)Dah (…) (…)Da Dah (…) Dah (…) (…)

]]> By: Konrad http://miguelbengoa.com/practice/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-165 Konrad Sun, 23 May 2010 16:43:25 +0000 http://miguelbengoa.com/wordpress/2007/12/15/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-165 conficing conventions? 12 beat compas and counting .... with soleares accents capitalized uno dos TRES quatro cinco SEIS siete OCHO nueve DIES once DOCE FIVE accents withing a twelve beat cycle ... claro if you only count to 10 and then 1 2 you confuse the beginner after you have told him it is a twelve beat cycle why go back to one when the twelve beat cycle is unfinished at 10.. ? we need to accent 5 beats in a cycle of 12 and know where to do it ... 12 = conficing conventions?

12 beat compas and counting …. with soleares accents capitalized

uno dos TRES
quatro cinco SEIS
siete OCHO
nueve DIES
once DOCE

FIVE accents withing a twelve beat cycle … claro

if you only count to 10
and then 1 2
you confuse the beginner

after you have told him it is a twelve beat cycle
why go back to one when the twelve beat cycle is unfinished at 10.. ?

we need to accent 5 beats in a cycle of 12 and know where to do it …

12 =

]]> By: Richard http://miguelbengoa.com/practice/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-164 Richard Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:00:02 +0000 http://miguelbengoa.com/wordpress/2007/12/15/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-164 Hi Miguel, Have returned from a good holiday in Jerez and Granada. Fate led me to Emilio Maya. He's a great flamenco guitarist, who also teaches. Just 1 hour with him has transformed my playing! As you may remember compas has been my stumbling block. Anyway, Emilio gave me a useful tip....if you must count, just count the emphasized beats (rather than every beat)........ .....so bulerias becomes 1 and a 2 and a 3 and 4 and 5 and 1...etc.. I now find it easier to tap my foot to these 5 beats and have gradually got into the swing of the rhythm. Best wishes Richard Hi Miguel,

Have returned from a good holiday in Jerez and Granada.

Fate led me to Emilio Maya. He’s a great flamenco guitarist, who also
teaches. Just 1 hour with him has transformed my playing! As you may
remember compas has been my stumbling block. Anyway, Emilio gave me a useful tip….if you must count, just count the emphasized beats (rather
than every beat)……..
…..so bulerias becomes 1 and a 2 and a 3 and 4 and 5 and 1…etc..

I now find it easier to tap my foot to these 5 beats and have gradually got
into the swing of the rhythm.

Best wishes
Richard

]]> By: Az http://miguelbengoa.com/practice/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-163 Az Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:51:59 +0000 http://miguelbengoa.com/wordpress/2007/12/15/elementary-rhythmic-structures-of-the-main-palos-flamenco-forms/#comment-163 Thank you for your blog! I just started learning flamenco and find your blog a really useful resource. Best wishes, Az Thank you for your blog! I just started learning flamenco and find your blog a really useful resource.

Best wishes,
Az

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