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		<title>By: Exercise for soleá for alzapÃºa and arpeggios.</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Exercise for soleá for alzapÃºa and arpeggios.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you would like a soleá por medio compás track to practice along to, you can find one here. I would have uploaded the palmas track, but it is a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best advice I can give you is to not complicate your life too much. Learn to play soleÃ¡. Learn it por arriba (e major) and learn it por medio (a major). Get your compÃ¡s going and take it from there. Keep listening - especially to cante. When you have those two going you can play them fast or slow, as you like. But think about cante, because that is the beginning and the end of all flamenco.

Don&#039;t worry even about playing the guitar per se, just getting the aire going, until you feel comfortable. That is what you have to do (IMHO) to make your playing feel authentic. I have met many, many guitarists who cannot play the guitar, but play flamenco wonderfully, utterly wonderfully, and that is the aim.

If you want to play guitar as well ( and that is my aim) then you will have to work on the flamenco and on the guitar. In that sense I am very lucky because I have &quot;wasted&quot; my life on that wonderful art that is flamenco.

The field is open and there is no competition, that is what I learned from Paco de Lucia in the few minutes that I spent with him.

Enjoy it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best advice I can give you is to not complicate your life too much. Learn to play soleÃ¡. Learn it por arriba (e major) and learn it por medio (a major). Get your compÃ¡s going and take it from there. Keep listening &#8211; especially to cante. When you have those two going you can play them fast or slow, as you like. But think about cante, because that is the beginning and the end of all flamenco.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry even about playing the guitar per se, just getting the aire going, until you feel comfortable. That is what you have to do (IMHO) to make your playing feel authentic. I have met many, many guitarists who cannot play the guitar, but play flamenco wonderfully, utterly wonderfully, and that is the aim.</p>
<p>If you want to play guitar as well ( and that is my aim) then you will have to work on the flamenco and on the guitar. In that sense I am very lucky because I have &#8220;wasted&#8221; my life on that wonderful art that is flamenco.</p>
<p>The field is open and there is no competition, that is what I learned from Paco de Lucia in the few minutes that I spent with him.</p>
<p>Enjoy it <img src='http://miguelbengoa.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for patience Miguel.

It is my flamenco books that are confusing me...I thought that that soleÃ¡ por medio had a faster tempo and a slightly more &quot;urgent&quot; aire compared to soleÃ¡....and was something different to soleÃ¡...in fact  I thought is was the same as soleÃ¡ por bulerÃ­a.

It is your clip that I really like, and where I want to focus my effort on the palo and aire.  So what do I study....presumably soleÃ¡ por bulerÃ­a is not what I should be listening to becasue it has a different aire?

Have I totally lost the plot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for patience Miguel.</p>
<p>It is my flamenco books that are confusing me&#8230;I thought that that soleÃ¡ por medio had a faster tempo and a slightly more &#8220;urgent&#8221; aire compared to soleÃ¡&#8230;.and was something different to soleÃ¡&#8230;in fact  I thought is was the same as soleÃ¡ por bulerÃ­a.</p>
<p>It is your clip that I really like, and where I want to focus my effort on the palo and aire.  So what do I study&#8230;.presumably soleÃ¡ por bulerÃ­a is not what I should be listening to becasue it has a different aire?</p>
<p>Have I totally lost the plot?</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back, Richard. A soleÃ¡ por medio and a bulerÃ­a are different even though el polo, la caÃ±a, las cantiÃ±as y las bulerÃ­as all come under the generic heading of soleÃ¡.

The most immediate difference that you should notice is speed and aire: soleÃ¡ is generally slower than the bulerÃ­a. The next most obvious difference is that the soleÃ¡ closes on the tenth beat with a characteristic &quot;cierre&quot;, which the bulerÃ­a does not use.

The soleÃ¡ will follow soleÃ¡ melodies, whilst the bulerÃ­a is much more flexible. What is perhaps confusing you is the chords used. Por medio refers to playing using a and b flat major. Both soleÃ¡ and bulerÃ­a can be played like this, and but both can be played in other tonalities as well - especially bulerÃ­a.

Historically, the bulerÃ­a is thought to derive from the soleÃ¡  towards the end of the nineteenth century being developed by singers such as El Gloria y El Loco Mateo eventually developing its own identity. I was developed from the endings of the soleÃ¡ which are, as you may have heard, often accelerated into bulerÃ­a - especially in the dance. This is known as &quot;rematar&quot;.

Today there are numerous forms and variations, both melodica and in terms of compas - and is usually accompanied by syncopated hand clapping and percussion.

Two good sources of information regarding this question are:

http://users.aol.com/BuleriaChk/private/compas/compasa5.html

and

Oscar Herrero&#039;s &quot;Pasos Flamencos&quot;. It I remember rightly, volume four gives a very thorough analysis of solea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back, Richard. A soleÃ¡ por medio and a bulerÃ­a are different even though el polo, la caÃ±a, las cantiÃ±as y las bulerÃ­as all come under the generic heading of soleÃ¡.</p>
<p>The most immediate difference that you should notice is speed and aire: soleÃ¡ is generally slower than the bulerÃ­a. The next most obvious difference is that the soleÃ¡ closes on the tenth beat with a characteristic &#8220;cierre&#8221;, which the bulerÃ­a does not use.</p>
<p>The soleÃ¡ will follow soleÃ¡ melodies, whilst the bulerÃ­a is much more flexible. What is perhaps confusing you is the chords used. Por medio refers to playing using a and b flat major. Both soleÃ¡ and bulerÃ­a can be played like this, and but both can be played in other tonalities as well &#8211; especially bulerÃ­a.</p>
<p>Historically, the bulerÃ­a is thought to derive from the soleÃ¡  towards the end of the nineteenth century being developed by singers such as El Gloria y El Loco Mateo eventually developing its own identity. I was developed from the endings of the soleÃ¡ which are, as you may have heard, often accelerated into bulerÃ­a &#8211; especially in the dance. This is known as &#8220;rematar&#8221;.</p>
<p>Today there are numerous forms and variations, both melodica and in terms of compas &#8211; and is usually accompanied by syncopated hand clapping and percussion.</p>
<p>Two good sources of information regarding this question are:</p>
<p><a href="http://users.aol.com/BuleriaChk/private/compas/compasa5.html" rel="nofollow">http://users.aol.com/BuleriaChk/private/compas/compasa5.html</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Oscar Herrero&#8217;s &#8220;Pasos Flamencos&#8221;. It I remember rightly, volume four gives a very thorough analysis of solea.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Miguel,

Before I launch into your advice about &quot;getting inside the palo&quot;.....can you help me further?  Is solea por buleria the same as solea por medio?   I&#039;ve searched for explanations on the web and in my music books..but am now confused.   What are the differences?

Many thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Miguel,</p>
<p>Before I launch into your advice about &#8220;getting inside the palo&#8221;&#8230;..can you help me further?  Is solea por buleria the same as solea por medio?   I&#8217;ve searched for explanations on the web and in my music books..but am now confused.   What are the differences?</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t hesitate, and thank you once again for the comments. Now where was my guitar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hesitate, and thank you once again for the comments. Now where was my guitar?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on!

You are right - I am one of those guitarists who for the last 20 years has been playing falsetas, and not getting very far (apart from my technical ability). I have known about compas, of course, and tried to master it,  but to no avail. So your advice is just what I need.

So, thank you.  No doubt I&#039;ll be in contact again!!

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on!</p>
<p>You are right &#8211; I am one of those guitarists who for the last 20 years has been playing falsetas, and not getting very far (apart from my technical ability). I have known about compas, of course, and tried to master it,  but to no avail. So your advice is just what I need.</p>
<p>So, thank you.  No doubt I&#8217;ll be in contact again!!</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Richard,

Firstly, thanks for your comment.

Yes by all means, I can provide the tab - but I am not able to transcribe everything accurately - it will have to be a rough idea. Also, the tab will not provide you with the &quot;aire&quot;. That is something that you will have to do yourself.

The best way to do this is to listen and listen and listen to the palo in question. And attack the problem from as many different angles as possible:

1. Accompany a recording of &quot;cante&quot; with your own palmas. Concentrate not on any syncopation, but on simply keeping an even steady beat going. Feel what is happening in the recording, and, over time, you will notice that you are accentuating the correct beats automatically. Take it form there.
2. Play along with dampened strings, using only your right hand. Start with the simplest rasgueados.
3. If you understand any Spanish, listen to the words, and hear how the singer plays with the  compas and syllables.
4. If you don&#039;t understand Spanish: listen intently to the words and try to sing them. Later, try accompanying yourself! Yes I know that this sound difficult, but it is a great way to get a feel of the compas and how people play around with it.

These ways will help you &quot;get inside&quot; the palo - which is what I think you should be aiming for - like the rest of us!

One last word...

Many guitarists outside of Andalucia develop an obsession with learning falsetas. In my humble opinion (IMHO - i believe) this is putting the cart before the horse. First develop a feel, after learn the notes. Get the basic compas using the basic two chords - La &amp; Sibemol (A &amp; B flat). Play to the compas - every day for ten minutes using only these two chords. Find as many ways as you can to go between the two without any break in your compas. Each note that you manage to insert is the start of the development of your own falsetas.

And as everyone says - be patient.

Miguel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Richard,</p>
<p>Firstly, thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>Yes by all means, I can provide the tab &#8211; but I am not able to transcribe everything accurately &#8211; it will have to be a rough idea. Also, the tab will not provide you with the &#8220;aire&#8221;. That is something that you will have to do yourself.</p>
<p>The best way to do this is to listen and listen and listen to the palo in question. And attack the problem from as many different angles as possible:</p>
<p>1. Accompany a recording of &#8220;cante&#8221; with your own palmas. Concentrate not on any syncopation, but on simply keeping an even steady beat going. Feel what is happening in the recording, and, over time, you will notice that you are accentuating the correct beats automatically. Take it form there.<br />
2. Play along with dampened strings, using only your right hand. Start with the simplest rasgueados.<br />
3. If you understand any Spanish, listen to the words, and hear how the singer plays with the  compas and syllables.<br />
4. If you don&#8217;t understand Spanish: listen intently to the words and try to sing them. Later, try accompanying yourself! Yes I know that this sound difficult, but it is a great way to get a feel of the compas and how people play around with it.</p>
<p>These ways will help you &#8220;get inside&#8221; the palo &#8211; which is what I think you should be aiming for &#8211; like the rest of us!</p>
<p>One last word&#8230;</p>
<p>Many guitarists outside of Andalucia develop an obsession with learning falsetas. In my humble opinion (IMHO &#8211; i believe) this is putting the cart before the horse. First develop a feel, after learn the notes. Get the basic compas using the basic two chords &#8211; La &#038; Sibemol (A &#038; B flat). Play to the compas &#8211; every day for ten minutes using only these two chords. Find as many ways as you can to go between the two without any break in your compas. Each note that you manage to insert is the start of the development of your own falsetas.</p>
<p>And as everyone says &#8211; be patient.</p>
<p>Miguel</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://miguelbengoa.com/toques/solea/solea-por-medio/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Miguel
I love your Solea por medio, the aire is great. I&#039;m trying to play along with it. Would it be possible to have the tab, please?
Thanks
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Miguel<br />
I love your Solea por medio, the aire is great. I&#8217;m trying to play along with it. Would it be possible to have the tab, please?<br />
Thanks<br />
Richard</p>
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